Tuesday, February 20, 2007

Velonews has sold out

Apparently to Sea Otter.

I'm a bit behind the times, but the last issue of Velonews (a.k.a. the Sea Otter promotion pack), if you look closely you might manage to find a teeny tiny article on the biggest cyclocross race on US soil.

Yes that would be Nationals.

I used to read Velonews for race coverage and I expected to see big color shots of the race with a great story. What I see is a small photo of Ryan (ooh hey look there's the Sneadmeister!) in the Liberty Cup race on Sunday with a pitifully brief writeup on the race, INSIDE an article about how Katie has become the top female US Crosser (duh, where have you been the last 3 years?). Anyhow, I'm wondering if they even had someone at the race, and if so, whether he/she forgot his/her camera, pencil, paper, laptop...brain.

What a load of B.S. Please feel free tell Velonews exactly how you feel about this.

And what are the chances they'll redeem themselves with a cover shot from Worlds?

Probably nil...

It'll probably be Levi.

Apparently we are a still second-rate sport, something akin to bike-polo...



Anonymous Anonymous said...

You tell em funkdaddy!!

I think you and Dave C. should take over velonews and then we could have some cycle gabb.

Lets face it, if the Nationals were in Colorado they would have recieved the cover for sure! Velonews is so biased to colorado racing and racers and basically they dont care about the BASP series you won, as well as Nationals.

I think I will write to Kip Mickler and Jason Sumner and tell them that Funkdaddy is the master of disaster, the king of sting, & that he floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee, and he has ants in his pants at the tour de france!

Hey, I hear Bart Wellens is going to have a bi-weekly article on European Cross next year in V.N.
I know you will add a subscription just to read that, right?

8:37 PM  
Blogger Dave Carr said...

Hey John -

I guess you missed the memo, VN sold out years ago.

Ever notice the correlation between who advertises and who gets the coverage? Ever notice how the "at the back" column usually manages to mention some advertiser? It's a pay to play world baby.

Here's an idea: Talk to Andy JM down at Specialized and get them to sponsor a pro CX team, then you will see front page coverage.

Meanwhile, check out the Tour of CA - now teams don't even get invited unless their sponsor ponies up additional cash for AEG. More pay to play. Oh well.

Now here's another question: who the hell do you think is still reading the CX pages in FEB??

- Carr

10:15 PM  
Blogger Dave Carr said...

Oh and another thing - speaking of Sea Otter, since when is the Sea Otter an adventure racing event?! I was looking forward to the MTB industry cup... no more...

10:17 PM  
Anonymous Tom Simpson said...

Even when you understand the process - and you buy a full page ad in the magazine to promote the Nationals - and you STILL get stiffed by the "Vortex of all things Cycling", then you begin restricting the press credentials to members of the uber parochial press from Boulder. And then you pay even more attention to Cyclingnews and other outlets with mucho more credibility and demonstrated interest in the sport.

I can't wait to watch a World Cup back east someday and poor VN scribblers can't get a word in edgewise because hey only have a single credential....

Dave, there's still lots of us doofies who read about 'cross in February (and July and August and...)

Tom S.

6:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tom s.

you are like velonews yourself

so how could you put them down when you are just like them?


4:59 PM  
Anonymous Tom Simpson said...


What's JJ stand for?

Tom S.

10:16 PM  
Blogger Josh and Barb said...

Yeah, Tom is such a bastard!

He's so sold out, what with his races that have results posted online within 24 hours. The podium that has 5 steps, a series that rewards local racers for showing up to all his events with good prizes in all cats. A passion that you can hear in in his voice when he's on the mic ALL DAY for all races. Race courses that everyone goes on about since they are so well thought out and cool.

I hate that guy, he's just wrecking the "scene" in nor-cal.

7:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah Josh and Barb!
or is it Barb and Josh?

10:29 PM  
Blogger Grey said...

Cross nerd here. Still reading. I don't get VN, but if I pick one up and there's an article by Wellens in it I'll write a letter to the editor. The text will be something like, "Booooooooooo!!!" Or, "Butt-hole!"

2:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is actually not Barb and Josh or Josh and Barb, it is Bosh-Jarb and they are one person using two names and they are connected below the waist and above the knees if you know what I mean..............

3:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Simpson is going to write negative things about velonews, then why does he put his race info in their calendar, seems a bit odd to me.


10:21 PM  
Anonymous Tom Simpson said...

I've met my match. No more disparaging remarks about VeloNews. My apologies to all the anonymous bloggers.

If I had seen what I thought was inconsistency on the part of some promoter, i.e. story above, I actually would have asked why the promoter had placed their events on the VeloNews website that Kip referred. I'm probably the King of Conclusion Jumping and usually think of easier ways after the fact. In reality, we didn't ask them to place any NorCal events on their schedules - neither Velonews nor Cyclingnews.com, not even Bicycling. The only 2 websites on which we strive to place our events are NCNCA.org (possibly the source of the VeloNews calendar but you'll need to ask them about their calendar details) and our own website.

I seem to be the fish out of water here so I'll confine my 20th Century Brick and Mortar comments to media where my corresponents and I all know each other's full names. Sorry to have annoyed you, Kip and JJ, whoever you might be.

Tom Simpson
Pilarcitos Cyclesports

2:30 PM  
Blogger Olaf Vanderhoot said...

bwaaahaaahaa ...

2:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dumped my Velonews subscription long ago. While the race coverage can be decent, there isn't much else. I now get CycleSport America. The race coverage is usually late (you'll get the "who's going to win the Giro" edition in May), but the interviews and analysis are top-notch, informative, and witty. Plus, they do carry articles on (European) cross, including a funny look inside the Sven Nys Fan Club experience at a cross race.

6:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Olaf we laugh at you too!

2:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am Kip M.

Tom S.

We have spoke many times, so you know me. Funny how you sort of brown nosed me a few times to make yourself seem important, and then you talk tuff when you blog in another demeanor. Very interesting.

12:35 AM  
Blogger funkdaddy said...

Dear Kip M,

Ummmm, just for the record I'm the tuff guy. What, exactly, is so tuff about Tom Simpson's comments? They seem pretty conciliatory and non-confrontational to me.

And wow, people brown-nose you? That must be really cool. You must be really important.

BTW, I am amazed that an editor of such a prestigious magazine writes comments in such poor English.

I think the problem is becoming clearer now...

11:00 AM  
Blogger funkdaddy said...

...there I've done it, I'll never get my name in VeloNews now...

11:01 AM  
Blogger Scott said...

oooooo, picking on VeloSpew. How mature. That's like giving a first-grader a wedgie. The poor guys are defenseless after all.

Funkdaddy, your headline is years late regarding the sell-out. Much like their "coverage" of anything that doesn't involve the Discovery team.

But while we're on the topic of why VeloSpew sucks... Anybody else wondering why they haven't posted anything about the Handmade Bike Show? hmmmm, could be because 90% of the builders represented there don't advertise in the Spew? No Specialized + no Trek + no Cannondale = No coverage.

Fortunately, CyclingNews.com is here to fill the void. Three VERY large sets of photographs and some nice write-ups. Apparently it's easier for an Australian based company to cover a show in San Jose California, than to get somebody from Colorado on a plane. Or maybe the CO-based "reporter" is too busy on his knees in Monterey getting ready for the Otter.

12:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually I am over in Europe covering the current road scene of the Pro Tour racers. You know, the ones that Tom S. seems to make up the names of his races after~

Kip M.

12:47 AM  
Blogger Scott said...

Do you have an unrequited crush on Tom? C'mon, you can admit it. This is NorCal after all, we don't judge like that.

7:28 AM  
Blogger Olaf Vanderhoot said...

"Actually I am over in Europe covering the current road scene of the Pro Tour racers. You know, the ones that Tom S. seems to make up the names of his races after~

Kip M."

... and i should get a VN subscription ... why?

8:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You tell em SCOTT! I know you are the expert in boy on boy action so you break it down for them!


11:01 PM  
Blogger funkdaddy said...

OV - you need VN so you can choose the right bike to go with that full CSC kit you just bought, i'm sure the 2007 buyer's guide has some great suggestions for well under $10K.

kip - pls keep commenting, you can self-destruct without further interference - let your true colors keep shining thru...

12:26 PM  
Blogger Dave Carr said...

Actually that is hernando himself in full kit on the cover of the buyers guide... his bod anyway, they just pasted zabriskies face on top (too busy to come in for the shoot)


9:34 PM  
Blogger Scott said...

"You tell em SCOTT! I know you are the expert in boy on boy action so you break it down for them!


Was that YOU hanging with the leather-chapped bears outside the Endup last weekend?

9:40 PM  
Blogger funkdaddy said...

...previous comment deleted as this thread takes a downward turn...kill it now!

11:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCOTT seems to be Dave C. Dressed in Drag...........

12:42 PM  
Blogger Scott said...

To Kip and the gang at VeloSpew.

Just got my March 12 issue today. You suck. The American crossers scored 3 silver medals in Belgium. Three! But who's got the cover shot, and the table of contents photo, and a 2-page 'Off the Front shot, and the first 10 pages of articles? Of course, Levi, Disco, and the Tour of California. Nice of you to give props in the 'Hot' section, although you have to flip through a lot of pages to find the actual coverage. (of a race that's now a month and a half old)

Do us all a favor. Just quit pretending to cover anything other than your paying sponsors. Leave that to the professionals. Like CyclingNews. Or the Funkdaddy.

1:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You kinow what i think is weak about the crying in this blog......
the sea otter is nor cal's biggest race! So props for the sea otter to dominate a velo news issue, this only highlights the great cycling we have hear in norcal. Other regions can only bitch that we have it so good and can take over a national(colorado) based publication............but noooooooooooo! Norcal needs to whine about it too! i think we all should be stoked the sea otter is big enough to take over one of these issues of velo spew and show the usa and abroad how nice norcal is in the spring, sometimes.

And as far as the tour if california, oh i know, as california residents ourselves, lets cry and whine that our tour, which took over the state the last couple years like no bike race ever has, and featured the finest riders in a race the USA has ever seen, and was dominated by a dude from norcal's santa rosa!

Yeah thats messed up that california has dominated velo news so much lately and nor cal in general.

to all the whiners out there, get off the computer and on your bike and ride!

or move to colorado, take a job at velonews and do something about it yourself!

8:05 PM  
Blogger funkdaddy said...

Ummm...I don't think anyone was really debating the merits of the Otter or the ToC. What we're "whining" about is the pitiful coverage of OUR sport. This is the "Cyclocross Babble" blog after all...

And if you think an early season domestic stage race trumps 3 Silver Medals at Worlds then you, my friend, are the one who should be sending a resume to Velonews.

11:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Master world's is most impotant. Funkedaddy you need to get it right, Master worlds is even more important then a cross race in Golden Gate Park. And lets face it, Cross is never going to be a main stream discipline of cycling. You, me, and everyone who chimes in on this babble stuff loves cross, but there are thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of recreational riders in the USA who just like to ride and are not hard core Cross competitors, and they are the mainstream when it comes to cycling. Not a bunch of cross dressed silly rabbitts! So Cross will never recieve the attention it diserves. Shoot, next you will be crying that ESPN does not show Cross high-lights, and Sports Illustrated did not have Katie Compten in its swim suit issue~
When your son wins the Cross Master worlds, then we will all write letters to velonews when he does not make the cover! Until then, get a hair cut, get your cycling equipment in order so you dont have a mechanical, and be a good dad!

1:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah Funkester!

If Cyclocross was a main stream style of cycling there would be thousands and thousands and thousands of poor people with blown out backs from the sport!

Cross is a tuff man's sport and tuff women's sport.

I think you should cry if Cross-World magazine did not put a photo on their cover from the world championship event.

As for Velo Snews, their cover choices and styles of reporting is simply par for the course, and you should expect nothing more and nothing less.

Hey.......the USA cross performance made the number 1 position in Whats Hot? & Whats Not!

Why dont you look at the bright side of things and be thankful for that.

11:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i wanna see katie compton in a g string bathing suit and funkdaddy in a speedo kind of wedged up a little high on the cover of velonews and the theme would be Cross is King and Queen in USA.

9:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey kids, I'm a previous (1991-2001) long time subscriber to VN. But I want to say that the reason why I have been going for news to Cyclingnews.com, Cycle Sport,
or Cycling 4all is because of their CREDIBILITY and DIVERSITY.
Call me a fanatic, but I like news from an INTERNATIONAL perspectuive
that has been ABSENT IN VELO NEWS for years. Chuck-Santa Rosa

10:41 AM  

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